I only found about the questions after the noon deadline but not sure what I would ask. He took and killed both girls, but he only wanted one of them The eyes on the tattoo are telling. There is a new sketch of BG in which he looks much younger. Looks like a socio. Police documents seen by The Sun, which are heavily redacted, do not make any mention of the Delphi case but do link him to the anthony_shots social media account. But why not arrest him, is the DNA chain of custody compromised? Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. Something not a lot of people get is that the man in the video was walking like an old guy because it was a fairly dangerous bridge with rotting wood, so you'd have to carefully step on each plank and make sure it wasn't a rotted one too. I guess they were right. Obviously we would have had to rely on other evidence gained, from all sources. They've said for years everyone there knows who did it, but it's never come out. Who knows if it was the real Kokomo Pastor JDW. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. We have estimated Slowly. There is no statute of limitations on murder. I have not been able to post a link for 2 days or I would be happy to. Anyone here have additional details on the sheriff or have more knowledge with this case? But during the one-year press conference marking the Delphi murders, state police said Daniel Nations was "not someone we care a whole lot about at this moment in time.". No stone should be left underturned! Making it look like a random murder / sex / pedophile crime would make sense to muddy their motive. The crimes are very similiar. For other inquiries, Contact Us. The last of these was in 1990, opposite Prowse. We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 23 March. I have never heard of a case with so much secrecy in it. when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. I mean proof is right in this story of what could happen. Please click here to register for free. You might even have to pay before the delivery but never after. The audio isn't clear. The way investigators are still asking people if they know who set up the catfishing account even though the fat pedo already admitted he did it. Its only thread that does that, that Ive ever experienced on this site - ever. Another theory involves a second photo from the Delphi killings, taken at about 2 p.m. on that fateful day, which shows a man hiding behind a tree. Evidently the Leigh Kerr AMA convinced a family member to demand more information, according to a poster on this thread. I really do hope that he is caught some day - and that his lawyer doesn't get him off on some technicality. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. ( R42) I think she hid the phone in her pocket. Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. That should be the answer And right after the crime happened, i remember reading that le was checking stores in the area, to see if they sold a certain type of knife. Ok, maybe this screenshot shows why I see a younger guy loaded with stuff. He suggests that Garnett, now, 60, who has for years claimed his innocence from his prison cell at the State Correctional Institution at Dallas, may have been wrongly convicted, and is hoping to win attention for his quest from the Pennsylvania Innocence Project, which handles appeals for such cases. Could have happened in a lot of places unless you're watching your kids 24/7 (unrealistic, and this is still a very rare thing to happen). According to officials at the county Clerk of Courts Office, two boxes of evidence from Garnetts trial are still being held in storage. I have read that he planned to take them somewhere but they broke and ran at some point and he was furious and then killed them quickly but not the way he fantasized (taking them somewhere and keeping them alive for a while first). Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar, Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead, ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. Unless there was something incredibly bizarre about the crime scene, how do you determine something is a signature unless you're comparing it to another crime scene where the same things were seen? Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. If they know who it is, that name would get out. Pretty sure anybody crossing that bridge wouldn't exactly be race-walking across it. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. The tattoo is creepy because the blank/empty show depersonalization, yet the tears (or blood) indicate suffering. R435, it could also speak to the outfits for that area. I still dont understand whats going on here. I didnt see him again that night. Police have other evidence that they have chosen not to share with the public. However, I do not think she is trustworthy. Take your conspiracies back to reddit. This is not the situation with the Abby & Libby investigation. Im assuming he means fear on her face as the guy approaches.I cannot imagine having to view images and crime scenes like this and then go home and live normally. "When we decided that, through the information we received, that we were going to release the second sketch I dont believe the individual knew we were going to do that. causes.". My fear is the tattoo could mean another victim. Or not. I think the best bet is to keep watching the video and listening to the audio. i don't want to jump on the "this is the guy!" I really hope so. You've seen too many movies. Idk why. height, weight, hair color, eye color), Specific Vehicle Descriptions (i.e. R350, he's walking like that because of the bridge. She also played Mrs Johnson, the leading role in Willy Russell's Blood Brothers, for four years at London's Phoenix Theatre. but doesnt live there. R23 Thats awful. Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. For whatever reason I feel the killer is associated but not the family. There are rumors that they did collect touch DNA at the site but no one knows for sure. The central piece of evidence that police had secured was a statement from Garnett in which he told them that he had, indeed, committed the murder. They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. They seem to show a person leaning against a tree? But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. Are there regrets about not securing the Morning Heights Cemetery as a possible part of the crime scene (i.e. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. I think that guy (who has obviously gained a lot of weight since some of them were taken) could very easily be the killer. Stands to reason. A. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. R22 I believe he is connected, he's definitely killed before and knew that trail. Again, this is all from the same person described above, but you can see the outline on his clothing, imo. I am praying they catch this guy in my lifetime. Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. They have no evidence to tie this guy on audio or the video other than snippets of poor quality. What purpose would that serve if not to intentionally apply psychological pressure, via the destruction of his fantasy, which might lead to a slip-up? The public has been given two sketches, is the thought there is more than one person involved or is the second sketch the suspected killer? The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. If you haven't listened to The Prosecutors Podcast's four-episode series on this, I highly recommend it. If that is true (and I dont know if it is true) AND he has a tattoo with eyes that are bleeding.that seems like too much of a coincidence. Q. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. People watch the news and think they are picking up on things, but its false. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. The first sketch was misleading. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. It's a dangerous bridge with rotting slats of wood that you have to look at and be careful stepping on. That person, he said, was his stepfather, Sam Whitaker. 40s? I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. R24 I would've thought the same but I read a case last year about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, I can't remember the full details and I wish I had bookmarked the info, the guy was either in the police or had connections to the police. It seems pretty in-line with their murders. The case of Abby and Libbys horrific double-murder remains cold, with tips continuing to roll in, but at least a year since the last Delphi murders update. R288, That's exactly what I said when I read he is from LaFollette. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. Not uncommon at all. Who knows if true, but that would really great if it works and new released information prompts a legitimate tip. Well, maybe Leigh Kerr triggered something. Thanks for proving why we should NOT have the death penalty, r194, the difference is that Lam wasn't even murdered, while these girls clearly were. I'm not sure I'd walk on it period. Calls to Libbys cell phone went unanswered and eventually straight to voicemail. I shudder to think about how he mutilated them and posed their bodies. Leigh Kerr and Robert Lindsey focused on Snapchat/sexual/religious. I dont think you could stop yourself from screaming if threatened with a gun. I wonder who called him as a tip and why? Another theory is first sketch (old guy) was taken from witnesses and the video. Say, "Drag me". R67 You have to wonder what that one girl did to "deserve" that brunt of the attack? Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? The Or someone prominent? Libby fought back. Marissa Bluestine, the Innocence Projects legal director, said she had not heard of Garnetts case until contacted about it by a reporter. One of my priorities is always going out to the scene locations whether it be a homicide scene or an abduction location so I can get that three-dimensional spatial aspect. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. The vague talk and all the initials instead of full names doesn't help most of us who clicked on that link. This page will put a light upon the Delphi Lawrence bio, wiki, age, birthday, family details, affairs, controversies, caste, height, weight, rumors, lesser-known facts, and more. If you are subpoened before a Grand Jury then you assert your Fifth to every single question. Chadwell is not the first person accused of an abduction crime who has been investigated as a person of interest in the Delphi murders. If true, they'd be calling out to him on the bridge. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. They've never publicly released information as to what exactly happened to the girls, though one can only assume they were likely sexually assaulted before being killed. The scarves seem like a true report as Ive seen it over and over. He wasn't speaking extemporaneously; he read it from notes. R143 That is fascinating about the sheriff. Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. R57 I think theyre on a thread in the Libby and Abby Reddit sub. Theyd have to have enough evidence to support a conviction if theyre going to charge him. R81's theory makes sense. [1] She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. She once had to pull out of the production suffering from exhaustion. Don't have a link, sorry, but a story at the Daily Mail today says he's been beaten up by the other inmates at the prison he's in. Who knows if thats true. R144, they documentary indicated that many were investigated and interviewed. But a lack of further evidence prevented Daniel Nations from being arrested. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. The source code for the WIKI 2 extension is being checked by specialists of the Mozilla Foundation, Google, and Apple. Along with the new sketch, police also updated their description of the suspect to be a man between 18 and 40 years old, who could appear much younger than he actually is. I have read on Reddit that the girls were nude or that one was and the other wasnt. I have no idea what we are thinking. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. I wish theyd nail this guy. (Other sources say that the girls were handcuffed to each other). The Daily Fail has an article posted today that has a suspect being investigated. A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. God, they have to catch this piece of human garbage! There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. We still have the up and down days is the best way to put it, he said. A. There was an excerpt of an interview with the Anthony shots guy. WebThere have been numerous reports of scarves. Q. There is speculation that the old Bridge Guy was stalking the girls and trapped them by being behind them on the bridge, while the younger guy approached the girls from the other direction. Abby was collateral damage. For the sake of argument, lets say they didnt know him. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. You can find youtubes of the bridge and it makes you understand what it was really like. I posted at R413. False confessions can be quickly discounted if they state a false COD. If Leigh Kerr is legit then I think the PB suspect people mention in the AMA thread is the guy. The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. I experienced it and I kept a piece of the high bridge and Ill carry it with me until we find out who this is.". The workplace of double murder suspect Richard M. Allen, on Oct. 31, 2022, in Delphi, where girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German were killed in 2017. R62- Do you think he was "speaking code" to the killer? Mr Sautereau confirmed the death but refused to comment further. Not sure where the phone was found or if the guy knew a recording had been made. I check online every few months, hoping that sob has been caught. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. Tony Slocom said at the time. The following are some of the more famous murderers and how long it took police to catch them: Golden State Killer, James DeAngelo: 32 years, Green River Killer, Gary Ridgway: 19 years, John Cooper, Pembrokeshire Murders: 25 years. Meat packing plant worker?) However he said the cops told him that Anthony shots was the last person Libby communicated with. 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For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were murdered in February 2017, Their bodies were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017, James Brian Chadwell II was investigated after his arrest in April. The girls were about 14? For instance, the Harvard professor who keeps insisting aliens visited earth could be feeling guilty that he covered up for the alien-murderers and providing us with subtle hints that they are actually guilty. i really hope they have some DNA evidence in the Delphi case. They released one of the only pictures from the Delphi murders in July of 2017, a full five months after the fact. I wish someone with money or connections would help these families hire a private investigator or lawyer to access additional details on the case. Id love to have seen the sheriff photographed in the same position as the man in the photograph on the bridge and see if the images aligned. For more than two years. He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. So, it was really, really important. It is very difficult to study this case. The image came from a video found on Libbys smartphone. Another thing that was interesting is a computer generated simulation of the positioning of the 2 girls on the bridge and the bridge guy. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. The girls had noticed the pervy guy earlier when they later noticed him following them across the abandoned train trestle. He could know the area and not be from there. This makes sense. And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. R7 Please elaborate! They knew in advance they would have that snow makeup day off so they could have told the "model" they would be there 2 weeks prior to their murders. I will listen to the True Crime Garage podcast. He does look remarkably like the Bridge man. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? Again, jmo. I actually rewatched the transition multiple times. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. The amount of weapons he is carrying give him the appearance of weighing more than he does, and to me it makes he seem older than his real age, jmo. I realize not all agree with my responses he said. She was stabbed in a neck artery and her heart. Somehow, the meth revenge killing is less horrifying than a random sadistic redneck preying on two kids in a crime of opportunity R219 No, hes popped up on the new sub, Today is the Day, sounding defensive and even fishier. It's almost 4am and I am checking out her FB friends. R338-- What makes them doubt it's him, if you don't mind telling us a bit about it. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. The only real clue of their location was a photo Libby had snapped of Abby walking along the bridge and posted to her social media. I would like to know why the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was called in to help with this. Horrifying. Check below for more deets about Delphi Lawrence. And some of the ones who still haven't been caught: r291 - the current POI looks very good for it. i don't know why. Chadwell was in prison for 13 years and he worked on bridges. I think he has a lot of crap under that jacket. Im guessing Gelsons or The Abbey with her twink coke whores. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. That cant be common. Convened a new task force that had its own bldg and then this. Guys is used by midwesterners to address both sexes. I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? No teenage girls want to "go for a walk" without having a different motive. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. Just my opinion, but I think he has no connection to that town. Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. Most notably: "The way you left them in those woods is not IS NOT what they're experiencing today". " as well as recorded him giving the chilling command, Guys.down the hill.. It was bizarre when Leigh Kerr was answering FB questions and JDW popped in. The guys and down the hill are in order, according to one of the parents/grandparents who listened to the recording and were interviewed on a podcast. was pregnant (or feared to be) & she was killed to keep that from going forward & interfering with the groovy young life of whatever boy. I wish I could remember who said it and where I heard it, but there was an interview with someone who had worked on the case and he mentioned how badly affected people he worked with had been by what they saw at the crime scene. It's this Chadwell dude to a "T". Im thinking not. I thought they had a suspect. Libby and Abby's bodies were found on Valentine's Day. The police did say they had a good idea of who had committed the crime and were waiting for him to slip up as it was just a matter of time. He told police he would find girls on Instagram and then ask them to talk to him on Snapchat. in 1984. Why doesn't this redditer just say what it is in summary? Or, more likely, it was the cause of death that got them involved. R216: Regarding the 2/14/2017 (approximate 22:21 time) scanner traffic: Its the dispatcher returning registration info on B*ian and B*njamin Beeks Monticello 2008 light blue Toyota. Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? This case must have really given hope to psychopaths out there. Someone should do a podcast on him and investigate this theory. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. The Monon Trail also passes by the former (now abandoned) estate of Herb Baumeister, who buried some 30+ of his victims on the property. Few updates have also been shared by police in the more than four years since. R185 I agree. The bridge is scary, and no way as an adult i would walk across it, but at 13 and 14 years old, i would have. He did everything to appear like a successful law student and volunteered in political circles. Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. Recent Reddit posts, some deleted, throw out the names Chr@stopher and V Nabors who live near Deer Creek. Stuff they are releasing now is ridiculously old (did you see a car parked in a lot that no longer exists 2 years ago?). I've thought about it repeatedly since it happened. No details about that vehicle were released, including make and model, color or license plate number. He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. Here you can see and hear the video of the suspect. Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. I am not surprised that this crime was committed there, and I would not be surprised if Indiana law enforcement officers know exactly who did it and are simply too complicit or too incompetent to bring the killer or killers to justice. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. I am presuming the girl who had more physical trauma was Libby, since she was older and bigger than Abigail, and thus probably more likely to put up a fight or try to cause a scene. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. This is one of the cases I try to follow pretty often, and when it happened I never thought we'd be this far along with no leads and no new information. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. The investigators probing Abby Williams and Libby Germans murders have not offered comment one way or the other on the accuracy of the representation, however. That girl was incredibly smart to get it recorded. This also speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. It is also not known if the killer left the phone there or not. They need to come up with, or utilize, cellphone GPS-tracking by wireless carriers. Per Leigh Kerr, the signatures included hair missing from both girls and their bodies posed in a relgious but also sexual way. HLN had a 5-year anniversary show on Saturday night. 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