I am asking you to touch me. but witnessed. Ive got a bone Limn: Yeah. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. This is not a problem. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. the ground and the feast is where I live now. This definitely speaks to that. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. Theres shower silent and bath silent and California silent and Kentucky silent and car silent and then theres a silence that comes back, a million times bigger than me, sneaks into my bones and wails and wails and wails until I cant be quiet anymore. And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our Foundations for Being Alive Now. That arresting notion, and the distinction Rachel Naomi Remen draws between curing and healing, makes this an urgent offering to our world of healing we are all called to receive and to give. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. We understand questions as technologies and virtues as social arts. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . I have a lot of poems that basically are that. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. We hold each other. Tippett: Okay. thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. several years later and a changed world later. Tippett: And that is so much more present with us all the time. And its true. I think I enjoy getting older. It is the world and the trees and the grasses and the birds looking back. kitchen tables, two sets of rules, two And I feel like theres a level of mystery thats allowed in the poem that feels like, Okay, I can maybe read this into it, I can put myself into it, and it becomes sort of its own thing. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. creeks, two highways, two stepparents Its the thing that keeps us alive. Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. The thesis has never been exile. Yeah. On Being with Krista Tippett December 6, 2016. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. On Being with Krista Tippett. Tippett: Yeah, it was completely unnatural. In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-, fact-like take the trowel, plant the limp body, thing, forever close-eyed, under a green plant, in the ground, under the feast up above. Unknown. Limn: Yeah. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? in the ground, under the feast up above. bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, Page 87. red glare and then there are the bombs. Tippett: Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. Tippett: And this is about your childhood, right? So I want to do two more, also from. And one of them this is also on. Find them at fetzer.org. They are honoring and recovering the fullness of the human experience the life of the mind, the truth of the body, the wild mystery of the spirit, and our need for each other. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? My body is for me.. I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. I really love . And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. I think thats something we didnt know how to talk about. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. Interesting. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. But I love it. no one has been writing the year lately. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. Musings and tools to take into your week. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. Okay. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. I love that you do this. And you also wrote about that, and you also wrote this essay. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. I really love . My familys all in California. July 4, 2022 9:00 am. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. Kind of true. Is it okay? The danger of all poets and I think artists in general, is it some moment we think we dont deserve to do this work because what does it do? Interesting. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. One of the most fascinating developments of our time is that human qualities we have understood in terms of virtue experiences weve called spiritual are now being taken seriously by science as intelligence as elements of human wholeness. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, Yeah. And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine., Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. These, it turns out, are as common in human life globally as they are measurably health-giving and immunity-boosting. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. has an unsung third stanza, something brutal Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Anthem. of the world is both gaze And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. What, she asks, if we get this right? adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. So in The Carrying, there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Im really glad youre enjoying it because theres many more decades. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Nick Offerman has played many great characters, most famously Ron Swanson in Parks and Recreation, and he starred more recently in an astonishing episode of The Last of Us. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. what you would miss. Weve come this far, survived this much. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. and enough of the pointing to the world, weary Nov 19, 2022, 8:00pm PST. Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. of the mother and the child and the father and the child I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Limn: Yeah. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. Limn: Yeah. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. 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